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August 21, 2008 at 12:57 pm | In Faith, Mark Heard, Paul Washer, Truth | 3 Comments

From the liner notes on Mark’s album “Eye of the Storm”:

If one delves more deeply into matters undergirding. . .belief, it can serve to strengthen that belief. If Christianity is truth, we should dig more deeply in matters relating to that truth, such as history, philosophy, archaeology, or dealing with evolution. We shouldn’t go around saying things that resemble greeting card slogans and expect the roots of our faith to grow very deep. If we are basing our faith on our own feelings about God, or our perceptions on the way things seem to be to us, and our message to the world becomes, “well, Jesus changed my life”, then I believe our Christianity is incomplete and brought to the same level for caricatured media competition as every other existentialist theist. If our faith doesn’t involve our mental processes as well as our hearts, then we aren’t going to have anything to say to people because whatever we say will be disconnected from objectivity, and will be perceived as mere opinion.

I just love that line, “We shouldn’t go around saying things that resemble greeting card slogans and expect the roots of our faith to grow very deep.” It reminds me of Paul Washer’s statement that most Christians today get their theology from the backs of tee shirts.

I think Mark had it right, but I would clarify just a little. Our faith must involve our mental processes because that is where we interpret Scripture. And both our minds and hearts – corrupted by sin – have the power of deceiving us, so we must submit both to the truth of the word of God.

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25 indictments against Paul Washer:
1) willfully limiting the subjectmatter of Scripture
2) willfully presenting his own fabricated version of true christianity
3) willfully bringing himself under a cloak of godliness
4) willfully closing the book of Revelation and the Prophets
5) willfully painting the graves of the prophets for his own selfish ends
6) willfully presenting himself since 2002 with remarks that show Billy Graham
to be his brother, although Graham is high in the world and an archdeceiver
7) comparison with the whole of Scripture and the true old paths of the Reformation
show him to be a cloud without water
connection in the Netherlands to all false christianity has to offer, even with those
who publicly say calvinism is a complete error
9) presenting himself in 80.000 newspapers in the Netherlands smiling as though
the sins of the churches and the land are no problem to him
10) proclaiming a message of revival that has never come, thereby telling lies in Gods Name.
11) accepting in the core of his message two contradictive systems of doctrine
12) denying the witness of the Holy Spirit in the Reformation against THE antichrist in Rome
13) denying the blood of hunderthousands christian brothers and sisters against THE antichrist in Rome
14) going around the USA and the world to gain one proselyte that he makes a clone of himself
15) being silent about the developements in the outside world, only preaching for his own parish
16) laying burdens on small people, while leaving big names in bibleschools, synods, and gospelmusic
untouched and unmentioned
17) connecting himself to Kirk Cameron, know throughout the world for the message of a future antichrist
with Left Behind
18) himself not being able to go to Wallmart for fear of sinning, yet laying on big burdens on everyone else
19) printing his own material as though it is manna from heaven, yet is only copying a little text everyone
knows with some questions
20) saying he serves the God of heaven, yet he himself is an idolater of the ring on his own finger
21) his minister is Jeff Nobblit who teaches a future antichrist, that gain is godliness, and remains in the
SBC although a complete apostate body with a statue for Billy Graham
22) closing the Kingdom of God for the people by keeping silent about the true contents of the witness of the old paths
23) denying the true witness of the Waldenses, the reformers, the english puritans, the scottish covenanters
24) denying the true witness of Augustine against Pelagius, Luther against Rome, the Westminster and Dordt Synods
25) being a facilitator and manipulator replacing the true religion of the King Jesus Christ with a false one of the new world order

Comment by reformatienl — December 25, 2008 #

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reformatienl:

I would ask you a simple question: How has your attack on Mr. Washer served to glorify God? May I charitably observe that searching the blogs daily to find new mentions of Paul Washer so you can repost your indictments against him does no damage to Washer and brings reproach to our Savior.

Let’s leave it at this: If you have a cogent argument to make against Paul Washer, please feel free. I won’t repost anything else you say unless it includes specifics regarding 1) what Biblical teaching has been violated, 2) when and where it was violated (proof, essentially), and 3) your documentation that you have followed the process outlined in Matthew 18 and taken this matter to Washer and his church first.

I am beginning to regret allowing your reply, but since I get very little traffic it really isn’t an issue.

I look forward to seeing your reply.

Comment by My Son's Father — January 2, 2009 #

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Hello Mossy, my reply with @@, Dennis

You wrote:
I would ask you a simple question: How has your attack on Mr. Washer served to glorify God?
@@ The only reason of this message is my wish to warn my brothers and sisters in Christ. I am convinced of this protest, and the least it does is that it gives material to compare Paul Washer with instead of the continued comparison between Paul Washer with Paul Washer and his fans, leading always to a great preacher and great radical christians. The Glory of God was shown in the Reformation, if Paul Washer does not speak according to the Gospel of the Reformation, he is a false teacher.

May I charitably observe that searching the blogs daily to find new mentions of Paul Washer so you can repost your indictments against him does no damage to Washer and brings reproach to our Savior.
@@ Sir, please listen again to the 10 indictment-message which has been PUBLICLY put out by Paul Washer. In it 10 fruits are mentioned for everyone in the USA to hear about the reproach these churches (including that of Washer) bring to the Lord Jesus Christ, as if those who for years have taken the Name of the Lord in their mouths at the end dont know God and dont know the Gospel. A clear situation of gnat and elephant, Sir !

Let’s leave it at this: If you have a cogent argument to make against Paul Washer, please feel free.
@@ See the 25 indictments.

I won’t repost anything else you say unless it includes specifics regarding 1) what Biblical teaching has been violated, 2) when and where it was violated (proof, essentially), and 3) your documentation that you have followed the process outlined in Matthew 18 and taken this matter to Washer and his church first.
@@ Paul Washer has already been warned extensively through the site Heartcrymissionary.com. An example of my proof I will give after this message.

I am beginning to regret allowing your reply, but since I get very little traffic it really isn’t an issue.
@@ If you would know the old paths, you would not say this !

I look forward to seeing your reply.

Comment by Dennis — February 27, 2009 #

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